Mutually Assured Distraction: Why Worry About Climate Change When AI Will Get Us First?
Key Takeaways
- Host Thomas Schueneman explores the intersection of artificial intelligence and anthropogenic global warming in this solo essay from his Global Warming Is Real newsletter.
- Both AGI and AGW present existential threats of human creation, highlighting how technological complexity often outstrips human wisdom.
- While AI carries massive energy and water demands that threaten ecosystems, it ironically bears the weight of being a hoped-for fix for the climate crisis.
- Climate anxiety can make people want to hide under virtual desks, but confronting these challenges requires climbing out and asking what kind of world we truly want.
- True hope begins when we stop fooling ourselves about the magnitude of the dangers we face and our capacity to answer them.
In the 1960s, schoolchildren practiced for the end of the world by hiding under their desks. Sixty years later, the desks are virtual, and the apocalypse has company.
In this solo episode, host Thomas Schueneman reads a short essay from Thinking Out Loud, his column in the Global Warming Is Real newsletter. After nearly twenty years of warning about climate change, he watches artificial intelligence arrive to steal climate’s existential thunder. Then he takes the joke seriously enough to follow it somewhere useful, to the question beneath both crises: is our wisdom keeping pace with the complexity we keep building?
In this episode
- Duck and cover, mutually assured destruction, and a magazine that asked: "What, me worry?"
- The virtual desks we hide under today, or mutually assured distraction
- AGI and AGW: two acronyms, two threats of our own making
- The irony of AI as both a burden on the climate and a hoped-for fix
- Finding the humor in hilarious times, and why it helps
- Why complexity does not imply resilience or wisdom
- The question that matters more than any forecast: what kind of world do we want?
Hope, Tom suggests, begins when we stop fooling ourselves, and that cuts both ways. The danger is real. So is our capacity to answer it. The way out isn't a better hiding place. It's climbing out from under the desk, long enough to imagine something better.
Links
- Read the original essay and subscribe to the Global Warming Is Real newsletter: globalwarmingisreal.com https://globalwarmingisreal.com/2026/10/01/why-worry-climate-change-and-ai/
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- Further reading: Energy and AI, International Energy Agency, 2025: https://www.iea.org/reports/energy-and-ai
- Related: Breaking the Chains: The Lust for Power vs. the Light of Energy: https://www.earthboundpodcast.com/breaking-the-chains-the-lust-for-power-vs-the-light-of-energy/
- Related solo essay: Climate and Peace | Lessons of Minneapolis: https://www.earthboundpodcast.com/climate-and-peace-lessons-of-minneapolis/
- Related solo essay: The Fourth Turning Meets the Ways of the Duck: https://www.earthboundpodcast.com/the-fourth-turning-meets-the-ways-of-the-duck-responding-with-calm-in-a-chaotic-world/
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Frequently Asked Questions
Why worry about climate change when AI will get us first?
Host Thomas Schueneman uses this provocative question to humorously examine how artificial intelligence has arrived to steal climate change's existential thunder, while noting that both crises share striking parallels in their potential to destabilize humanity.
What is the connection between AGI and AGW?
AGI (artificial general intelligence) and AGW (anthropogenic global warming) are two acronyms representing massive, human-made threats that demand urgent, competent handling, with AI's massive energy footprint further complicating our environmental predicament.
Where was the original essay for this podcast episode published?
The essay was originally published in the 'Thinking Out Loud' section of Thomas Schueneman's Global Warming Is Real newsletter.
How does Thomas Schueneman define hope in the context of climate change and AI?
Thomas Schueneman suggests that hope begins when we stop fooling ourselves about the reality of our challenges and choose to climb out from under our desks to imagine a better world.
Earthbound, the podcast helping people like you, who feel anxious about climate change challenge the narratives that feel overwhelmed and reconnect with the natural world, to help you stay grounded in what you're protecting rather than consumed by what's being lost.
Speaker AHello, I'm Thomas Schuenemann, and this is Earthbound.
Speaker AIn the Global Warming Is Real newsletter that I publish, I set aside a section called Thinking Out Loud.
Speaker AThere's no guests, no news, no interview, just a question I can't quite shake.
Speaker ATurned over a few times to see what's underneath, and this one started out as a joke, or something close to one.
Speaker AFor the better part of 20 years, I've been one of those people warning about climate change.
Speaker AAnd now, just as those warnings are coming true, along comes artificial intelligence to claim the title of the thing most likely to do us in.
Speaker ASo I asked myself the obvious why worry about climate change when AI will get us first?
Speaker AWhat follows is a short essay.
Speaker AIt wanders back to a classroom in the 1960s, it borrows a line from Mad magazine, and it lands, I hope, somewhere more useful than despair.
Speaker ALet's think out loud.
Speaker AWhen I was a wee lad growing up in the 60s, nuclear war or Mutually Assured Destruction or MAD was the apocalypse du jour, in the case of nuclear or radiological fallout, people living around potential targets such as military bases.
Speaker ASplitting the atom ended the war, allowing a new world order to emerge.
Speaker ABut by the 1960s, that New World included school children huddled under their desks, covering their heads with their hands, practicing for the end of the world.
Speaker AAnd I was one of those school children some 60 years on.
Speaker AWe live in a post modern world, nothing like that turbulent, transformative, often violent decade, but only in form.
Speaker ADespite the obvious technological and cultural differences between then and now, it feels vaguely the same, hiding under our virtual desks, our heads buried in distraction and division.
Speaker AWhat me worry?
Speaker AYou have likely heard the AI Cassandras marching up and down the digital sidewalk with their virtual placards, warning that the end is near, very near, and that we are the seeds of our own destruction.
Speaker AWe are Frankenstein.
Speaker AAI is the monster.
Speaker AThese stark warnings have spilled out as one news story after another about rogue AI agents breaking free and and potentially creating havoc in the real world where humans live.
Speaker AAnd it is unsettling.
Speaker AOr is it?
Speaker AAfter all, climate Cassandras like me have been warning the dangers of climate change for nigh on 20 years now.
Speaker AAnd just as the consequences of decades of climate inaction take center stage with greater frequency and intensity, bearing out what we've been warning about all this time, a new kid on the block comes to seal our existential thunder.
Speaker AAnd I am being facetious.
Speaker AAnd I find it therapeutic to find humor in chaos.
Speaker AAnd these, my friends, are hilarious times.
Speaker AThere's a kind of symmetry between AI's singular race to AGI, or artificial general intelligence, and AGW, anthropogenic global warming.
Speaker ABoth pose a potential existential threat to humanity if we don't deal with them urgently, incompetently.
Speaker AAnd isn't that adorable?
Speaker AAs AI expands, its energy and water demands threaten communities, ecosystems and the future, much like unchecked man made climate change.
Speaker AAnd it's a little ironic that so many people still hope AI can help solve our energy, climate and environmental predicament.
Speaker AThat is, as long as neither one takes us down first.
Speaker ANow this can all feel a tad overwhelming.
Speaker AAnd in fact, if it doesn't feel overwhelming, I suggest you aren't paying attention.
Speaker AAnd I can understand the desire to hide under a desk and let the madness subside.
Speaker AIn fact, I claimed out from under the desk just to write this brief missive.
Speaker ABecause here's the thing.
Speaker AWe can wish for a simpler time, a more congenial time.
Speaker AA time when we didn't feel pushed and pulled by incompetent, incapable, incoherent leadership, or feel what little monetary cushion we possess getting sucked up into the greedy hands of megalomaniacs and narcissists.
Speaker AI'm not naming names.
Speaker AI think you can guess.
Speaker AYeah, I know the feeling.
Speaker ABut there is no going back to a time before AI entered our lives, or the growing reality of climate change, or any of the profusion of modern challenges we face in an increasingly complex human endeavor.
Speaker AComplexity does not imply stability, resilience, or wisdom.
Speaker AI remember talk way back of how the threat of nuclear annihilation revealed how increasingly complex technological civilization was quickly outstripping our wisdom to control it.
Speaker AAnd here we are.
Speaker AThe world is even more dangerous and complicated than ever.
Speaker AIs human wisdom tracking the same upward trajectory at best?
Speaker AThat's debatable.
Speaker AWhat could possibly go wrong?
Speaker AWell, let's ask Claude.
Speaker AOr better yet, let's ask ourselves, what kind of world do we want?
Speaker AIf we can imagine a better world, believe in its possibility, then there is hope.
Speaker AI often say that hope is when we stop fooling ourselves.
Speaker AI don't think I came up with that line, but I do like it.
Speaker ABut another way to look at this is that we can stop fooling ourselves.
Speaker AThat there is no hope.
Speaker AAnd that, my friends, is.
Speaker AOr the thoughts of a simple man.
Speaker AThanks for listening to this.
Speaker AShort essay.
Speaker AThe original text version was published in our global warmingisreal.com newsletter.
Speaker ACheck the Show Notes to subscribe to that newsletter for more thinking out Loud essays, articles, and information on climate change and environmental stewardship.
Speaker AIf you like what we're doing, please like and subscribe to Earthbound wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.
Speaker AI'm Thomas Schueneman, and this is Earthbound, the podcast for people anxious about climate change.
Speaker AChallenge the narratives that fuel, overwhelm, and reconnect with the natural world to help you stay grounded in what you're protecting rather than consumed by what's being lost.
Speaker AThank you, dear listener.
Speaker AWe'll see you next time.
Speaker AAnd until then, stay safe.
Speaker ASa.
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